Reunion Accounts – Sat 22nd March 2014

Preparations from your Founder – Debbie Cook

As Carlisle is a long way up North for many of you Southern softies to travel I was delighted that Kate decided to visit me in January. This visit allowed us the opportunity to discuss an alternative venue in London for the March reunion instead of imposing on the generosity of BAAF who had allowed us to use their premises for free in the past but we considered that the time was now right for our group to become self sufficient. After much discussion we selected St Paul’s Community Centre, Marylebone, London as a suitable venue after Sue had checked out the location.

On this occasion it was necessary for me to pay the hiring fee in advance using my own money therefore in future it will be necessary for members to please register their intention to attend a reunion and pay the necessary fee in advance.  I realise that sometimes it is difficult to make a commitment in advance but without your continued support either I will be out of pocket or we will not be unable to hold our reunions as frequently as we have in the past. Thank you to those who did register and pay promptly on this occasion.

Once again I would also like to thank Kate for her professionalism in preparing the program for the day and her continued support! May I also thank both Claire & Sue who sampled the food and found the Thai Restaurant ‘Monkey and Me’ for our social evening meal, which was enjoyed by all.

I started this reunion by driving from Carlisle to Northumberland to collect Janet and then down to London staying at a Premier Inn over the weekend. As some of you are aware Janet has a reputation for knowing all the good tearooms along the A1 so plenty of stops were in order, thank you.

On our arrival at the Premier Inn we were greeted by Kim, Ian, and Linda who had already arrived. Pete and Lyn came a little later but they went to see a show, whilst the rest of us were joined by Yvonne for dinner on Friday, sadly she could not join us at the reunion itself, so it was a real treat that we could have some time with her.

 

On Saturday we had a leisurely breakfast at the Premier Inn and a taxi ride to the venue which was a fabulous idea, thank you Pete. A big thank you to those who arrived early and helped to arrange the seating and set out the refreshments too. Although the numbers were less than at previous reunions it was a lovely intimate gathering and we were able to sit in a circle which made the sharing more enjoyable. Kate started the day by outlining the program and then we set about our first item on the agenda.

My sincere apologies for not being able to talk much on the Saturday but as you guessed I was experiencing extreme problems with my voice box, but I will answer questions quite happily on email for the moment regarding the website.  My husband has never had it so quiet for a long time!

 

Linda’s account of the day – Thank you

With news of the 2014 reunion approaching I eagerly look forward to the meeting of the other girls and to share time together. All the London Reunions have all been different with some familiar faces and some new faces. We have been so fortunate in the past to be able to hold the venue at the offices of Julie Feast work place. This time the venue was at

The church was a lovely building with plenty of space for us to move around it, even though the numbers were down from previous reunions. We were also slightly out of the London zone 1 and zone 2 area but the place was easy to find.

We arrived in plenty of time on a cold and windy day and had to wait for the doors to be opened.

While we all waited outside and exchanged conversations a café was found around the corner so a few of us went there to warm up.

Once inside we were greeted by Tracy, Kate’s sister at the registration table. It always makes you feel more comfortable to see familiar faces greet you in. We had all brought in our own lunches so before we settled into the gathering there were friendly exchanges going on and it was like seeing long lost friends. It was all very informal and this made this reunion much more relaxed and gave room for more openness.

We were divided into two rows according to our first names, then we had to say a few things about the person on our left. I said a few things about Kate Gordon with a little bit of help as Kate is from West Bromwich not Birmingham and I mentioned about visiting the Library at Birmingham as I really enjoyed going there.

We were divided into three groups and we had to write down three negative things about adoption and three positive things. This took some thinking on my behalf as I found that I had more positive than negative. To try and summarise into a single word I thought would be easier. All this was collected and stuck onto the wall for us to read afterwards.

A group discussion was led by Julia Feast about what we had written. It was interesting to have feed back from other people and to be able to share this is in an open discussion. What was most interesting was that there was some common comments such as the lack of culture, lack of language, lack of identity and belonging. Some of the positives was education, a family structure, love and support from a family, and security. The list is endless of pros and cons. I feel sometimes that these things are not talked about enough, how being adopted affected you through the stages of your life from early childhood through to your teens and growing up to an adult and becoming a parent yourself.

We are all on a journey and it’s through what we learn from our immediate peer or our family structure or our friends do we become who we are. As we are far likely to be more influenced by the people we are with on a regular basis. I feel that this has been so for me. People come and go into and out of your life but they are all put there for a reason. I feel that these reunions contribute to our making and we learn how to move on and relish new friendships and share common experiences. To me it’s a healing and a nurturing process, at times I have not wanted to know where I come from nor did I ever want to return back to Hong Kong. Having since gone back to Hong Kong I’m so glad that I was able to share the experience with my other sister’s for I know that I couldn’t of done It on my own.

This is how I see the reunions I find them very daunting and over powering at times I’m very much an introvert and prefer my own company. But I do enjoy the banter and to hear the cheerfulness around the place. And it’s always reassuring to know that we belong and have another family.

I think it’s the sense of belonging that I cherish the most as I have struggled with this throughout my life and I think you learn to become self reliant but the need to share with others with things in common is also a comforting thought. This is why being part of the reunions has been such an eye opener for me and has helped to change my way of thinking.

We can’t change the past but we can change our future and make a difference. This is what I feel.

Thanking for all the reunions and all the reunions to come.

 

Claire’s Account of the March Reunion

Adoptees Anonymous

We had another fantastic reunion last Saturday in London. For the first time we hired a hall to cater for our increasing numbers because Kate Gordon likes to get us up and around. No sitting on your arse and gently nodding off when she’s in charge, no siree. Debbie Cook’s voice packed up and went sightseeing while she was trying to tell us important stuff – like a special members’ area on the HKAN website. Fortunately, she had the foresight to anticipate such absence and arranged for our very own Julia Feast of the British Association for Adoption & Fostering (BAAF to me and thee) to facilitate.

And before we know it, we’re on our feet (thanks, Kate) attempting to shuffle ourselves into alphabetical order by first name. Which was nothing compared to the next challenge which was to arrange ourselves into three groups. Now, tell me, have you ever tried to herd twenty plus menopausal women? Julia was valiant in her attempt. She went down the line assigning us each with a number: 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 and, in theory, all the ones get together, followed by the twos…until some bright spark introduced the concept of a fourth table. To be fair, the goal was achieved. We were mixed up alright.

Lo and behold, some time later (I’ve always been rubbish at estimating time), brightly coloured post-its appeared over the walls each listing three positive aspects of our adoption and three losses as a result of it. Themes emerge and here’s the value of our regular get gatherings. These themes are our shared experiences. We grew up alone mostly. In a few cases only children, but in the majority, the sole Chinese child in a white family. Often the sole non-white person in the community or school. For fifty years, we faced these experiences on our own. Yes, some of us had supportive families, and later, supportive partners. Yes, the redheads, the four eyes and the unattractively well padded rallied to our side. But only we know what it’s like to be a Brit trapped in a Chinese body. Even BBCs (British Born Chinese), though often not being able to speak Chinese (no, really?) have Chinese relatives. Pooling coping mechanisms is valuable to this day for, even now, we face ignorance and taunts. On a previous occasion, Julia quoted one of us rising above the racism with the withering line, “Oh do grow up”. This time, our adoptee brother, a no nonsense Yorkshire lad, shared a recent story of being hassled in a pub. Challenging his abuser up close, right in his personal space, he demanded to know, “Were you born stupid or does it just come naturally?”

Xiao Li, from Mothers’ Bridge of Love, came to introduce us to her organisation. It was established by Xinran, a renowned Chinese writer and journalist, to provide opportunities for children adopted to white families around the world from China in the 90s to access their culture. She also outlined the charity’s other work which supports disabled children in China and library services in deprived areas. She also came to drum up support for a dragon boat to compete at the end of June sponsored by the Hong Kong Economic Trade Office. So those of us with a bit of derring do, get your oars out! I read out a letter from one of the nurses at Fanling Babies’ home which described our daily routine. Though basic, it was clear from her account how committed and loving the staff was. With limited resources, they nursed us back to health and cared for us until we went overseas. Debbie asked me to tell everyone what I was up to with my search for my birth family and my other little writing projects. You’ll notice the gap between the date when I started this report and the date it’s published. There in lies the road to hell and the good intentions…

Afterwards, we made our way on foot to Monkey and Me, a Thai restaurant not a million miles from Baker Street. Well, I say not a million miles but, when twenty odd (yeah, I know) Hong Kong adoptees gather to go anywhere; it’s a bit of an adventure. It would be logical to follow the person who lives in London but, everyone has now learned through first hand experience, that I have the sense of direction of an inebriated swallow on migration. I am pathologically incapable of reading a map and, indeed, had even set off with great confidence in the wrong direction when trying to get the mere stone’s throw from Marylebone station to the church hall earlier. So we followed Sue Jardine instead, who had generously given up time to research local eateries. Imagine, then, the surprise of those in the advanced party, seated in the restaurant, noses pressed to the window, observing us march on by on the opposite side of the road. In all fairness, Sue had only been once and we distracted her terribly with wayward theories as to where we were. It doesn’t help that London street signs are few and far between and we’re blind as bats and can’t read them. For those of us not based in London, we can pull the old tourist trick. For those of us that are? Well, thank heaven we can gather regularly in our support group and forever be Adoptees Anonymous.

And Kate last few words…….

At previous meet ups, people have brought a variety of documents and artefacts but there’s never been enough time to really look at them. This time, we built in a ‘show and tell’ carousel, inviting people to bring their stuff for display. We put out a very specific request for people to bring their silk padded jackets which I’m told were provided by an anonymous benefactor together with clothes and toys.  There was a wonderful display of the old Hong Kong British passports with the metal ID bracelets, as well as the jackets.  

In addition to these fabulous objects, Rachel had brought her records which include her plane ticket and her flight schedule that her father had written down!  The schedule really brings home the length of time the flight took, and the task that the temporary guardians took on.  It also makes you ask more questions…
Here are a few pictures

Thank you to both Linda, Claire and Kate, and a big thank you to Julia Feast for agreeing to Facilitate the meeting.  Thank you to Ian our resident photographer but most of all a big Thank you to all.

Skype Social Conference Call

Once a month we are having a Skype conference call whereby we invite any Chinese Adult Adoptee to join us, please contact Debbie UK or Kim R if you wish to join us , giving your name and Skype address.

Saturday 7th December was a blast or as the Americans would say Awesome! We had the following countries all participating, Brisbane, Hong Kong, Hawaii, UK, in America New York, Vancoover, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Eugene, Portland, California, and Baja.  All the different time zones and weather made the call just an amazing way of meeting new adoptees like ourselves!

The usual formalities are that everybody introduces themselves and the person wearing the CROWN (me) does her best to ensure that each person gets a chance to say something as there are so many questions or experiences that we want to share……

Come and join us…  It will be the First Saturday in each month 8 pm UK time.  However, our January date has been set  back to the 2nd Saturday as people are still on holidays.  I will post details nearer the time individually if you have contacted me or else on this website.

In the meantime I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

An abandoned baby on the streets of Shanghai

I read an article in the Financial Times off the internet and I wanted to share this story.  I was really quite moved as it is about a lady who finds a baby girl abandoned in an alleyway, she herself had already adopted two Chinese girls and it tells of her emotions….

Are Chinese orphans better off than they used to be?

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/ft/2011/08/lost_and_found.html

 

Sun and Moon for the Birmingham Reunion, September 2013

Written by our lovely Janet, Thank you.

Friday’s dawn cast a rich golden glow as I bade hubby a romantic farewell (“don’t forget to put the bins out”) and, in some trepidation, set off for a reunion on my own for the first time. But I knew I’d be among good friends, and that’s indeed how it turned out – wonderful company and an enjoyable mix of things to do together. For instance, several of us shared dinner that evening and on Saturday I joined the group exploring the new Library.

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Birmingham’s new public Library, the largest in Britain

This is an interesting modern building designed as a golden treasure box. Was the architect let loose with Spirograph? Inside we walked or went by escalator/travelator/lift through imaginative non-angular spaces cleverly flooded with natural light. From the top floor (9th) we admired the city panorama, and then strolled round the roof eco-garden.

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Viewing gallery

The combined Museum, Art Gallery and Edwardian Tea Room (for me, a winning combination!) is by contrast a grand historic building but no less impressive.

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Lunch in the Edwardian Tea Room

The afternoon’s reunion was structured (with a ‘facilitator’ – thanks, Sanjeeta) yet it felt relaxed and informal. The atmosphere was just right for the intimate telling of adoption stories as we shared and also supported each other. There were some very moving stories indeed. Among many subjects we discussed our approximate birthdays, racism then and now, trying to obtain documents, and the intermittent post-adoption support or total lack of it. Debbie reported on the recent meeting of four mothers along with their daughters, and we heard (read out from a written piece) the viewpoint of mothers who’d adopted. We also heard perspectives directly from a sister of an adoptee and another’s husband who’d come to the reunion.

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The reunion

Chinatown was bustling as it was the Autumn Festival. Against the odds Kate had managed to book the Ming Moon restaurant, in the end avoiding a particular pub chain. Ancient Chinese proverb, it say: “Better to eat with chopsticks than with wetherspoon.” In fact, it was fork for pork (etc) as chopsticks weren’t provided. It was westernised but still lavishly oriental, whose help yourself buffet kept calling to me. Over 50 Asian dishes, oodles of noodles, sushi and dim sum – how could I resist. This was a really fun time when I could catch up with some friends I hadn’t been able to chat to earlier. Some of us went for drinks afterwards, and visited a Chinese food supermarket the next day before we finally had to part company.

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Lunch on Sunday

As I neared home, still remembering the reunion, I watched the bright orange moon as it rose (still mostly full) and thought of the egg yolk = moon in the Autumn Festival mooncakes. A beautiful way to end a brilliant weekend.

Thanks so much to Kate who organised the weekend and to Debbie who contributed too. Thanks to Ian for three of the above photos.

Reflections from Mother’s and Daughter’s

Serena’s mother Brenda has very kindly written the following:-    

6a Serena Brenda‘I sat on the train travelling to Manchester and wondered what the forthcoming meeting on the following day would bring.   There had been over forty years of non-communication and a wall of silence was to be broken.     Four mothers with their adopted four daughters were to meet for a few hours during Wednesday, 14th August, 2013. It had been over forty five years ago that we all had laid plans to adopt a little child from a Hong Kong Children’s Home.   During those years I had had no contact with any other family who had welcomed into their home a little Chinese toddler, even though 106 such children had been brought over by the BOAC planes to England.  Why the non-communication?  Simply in those days support groups were rare and not even considered.   I wondered whether there would be awkward silences, and whether we would struggle to enter into a free dialogue with one another.   I wondered what the outcome would be for us all – beneficial or would it be just a brief insignificant interlude in our lives.   Vanessa and George were hosting the meeting and I found myself immediately ‘at home’ in their house in Hale Barns,Cheshire.   Wednesday morning found us waiting for the others to arrive, and when they came it was like a meeting of ‘friends’.   We all had something in common – we had all taken the same step into the same unknown journey.  We chatted, exchanged our different experiences, we drank tea/coffee and wine, we had a pleasant lunch in the garden and all the time the conversation flowed.   There were no tensions for we had so much to tell one another and so much to learn from one another. Was the meeting beneficial?  Yes and yes again.   I gathered a greater understanding of the various challenges we all faced during the first few years of helping a little daughters to adjust to family life in Britain, but the loveliest moment during that day was to see my daughter Serena freely conversing with her new Chinese friends.     Do I have any regrets of the meeting?  Yes.  I regret that this meeting was forty-five years overdue.  

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Joanna’s mother Reverend Anne – August 2013 visit

​One beautiful, sunny day in August, my daughter, Joanna, and I drove to Cheshire to meet three other mothers and their daughters who were adopted in the early 1960s.

​We had a good time swapping our early experiences, and discovered that although these were similar, they were also very different!  For example, one mother (a teacher) had researched all the data on maternal deprivation, abandonment and adoption when she first had her daughter, whereas I didn’t discover this information until I trained as a teacher myself in the 1980s!   We found our daughters had various phobias which probably were rooted in their early babyhood experiences.  For example one couldn’t stand furry things, another birds and another flies.

​I was impressed by the way the girls, sitting together on the sofa, seemed bonded together as if they were sisters. They didn’t look alike, but they appeared to feel alike.

​We enjoyed great hospitality, lovely food and friendship, a beautiful garden to sit in – thank you very much to our hosts.

​Although we Mums maybe getting on in years, I can recommend this type of get together, I found it very rewarding. I hope the girls did too.

 

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Debbie’s mother Vanessa has written the following too:

5a Debbie VanessaI have thought so many times about how useful and interesting it would be to talk to other mother’s who had adopted a baby from Hong Kong, especially at the very beginning when there were so many problems. So, I was delighted when Deborah told me that the mother of one of the adoptees had said “what about us, you would not be here if it hadn’t been for us?” I had nearly mentioned it several times to Deborah but she was so involved and enthusiastic about the whole adoptee set up that I thought maybe I should stay in the background as I felt it was “her thing” It soon became apparent that many mothers had the same idea, so we set a date and decided to have a buffet lunch at our house.

There were four mother’s with their respective daughter’s. I think we could easily have expanded it but eight people was a manageable number in a private house. Serena, an adoptee, and her mother travelled up from Kent the day before and stayed with us which was a great help in preparing for the day.

The day dawned fine and sunny, the other mothers and daughters duly arrived and we were able to take our lunch out to the garden (which I always think makes it nice and informal) and Serena took photos of us all. It was soon apparent that we had all had problems of one sort or another, mostly quite different.

In our case the problems all stemmed from insecurity which is hardly surprising as Deborah had spent just over two years in the Fanling baby home. She was then given to a stranger to bring over from Hong Kong on the long flight to Heathrow airport where we met her. She was almost flung into my arms with the words, “she has yelled all the way over, been sick and her dirty clothes are in this bag, oh, and she needs her nappy changing” Wow! There was another mother meeting a baby, we took them into the Ladies to change them and then departed for Manchester at a time of no motorways and the journey took about five hours!

I had not expected to find looking after Deborah easy but it took a year of considerable difficulty and a second year when life became a little easier. I would say that realistically her adjustment was five years in total. There were times when I despaired that Deborah would ever fully adjust and it was hard to know if I was handling the problems correctly.

I was only visited by the National Childrens’ home once and had no other professional help or advice. Fortunately I had wonderful neighbours who helped with good old fashioned common sense which is all I had to go on. How marvellous I thought at the time it would be to talk to other mothers in the same situation but with no internet it would have been impossible. All four of us mothers agreed wholeheartedly with that thought. We all felt the day had been a great success and agreed that we should put something on paper from our perspective.

I know that it has been wonderful for the adoptees to get to know one another and find people in exactly the same situation as themselves. So this is my attempt! I think that having the mother’s perspective, in a way, completes the circle.

 

Picture of the 4 of us enjoying dinner at a local pub at the end of a lovely day.

Serena Vanessa Debbie Brenda

Serena comments too;

When I bought my mum to the BAAF BCAS Gathering which was in January 2011 at The Nuffield Centre, London I was surprised my mum was the only one to show up. Ever since then we have both been curious as to how other mums felt and was secretly hoping there would be more mums meeting up another time.

So when the opportunity for a mums & daughters get together date was arranged we were both very excited.

The day was lovely and relaxing with 4 mums Ann, Brenda, Joan and Vanessa and 4 daughters. Great to catch up with familiar faces, Joanna and Debbie and to meet Kwai for the 1st time.

Watching and listening to the mums chatting about us was really interesting and also hearing their side of the story was such an eye opener as I had only heard my mums views about adopting me.

Thanks to Vanessa for hosting the day in their home we were pleased it was a lovely day and we could eat out in the garden.

I enjoyed the day and was mainly pleased for my mum that she had finally met another mum who has had a similar experience to her when she adopted me.

Joanna Comments too:-

13b Joanna AnnWhen I told my mother that Janet had organised a reunion in London for the December 1962 group of nine adoptees, she wondered why the mothers weren’t invited. This prompted me to suggest to Debbie that as her parents lived in the same area, then perhaps meeting them, might satisfy her.

Serena’s mother was keen also, and willing to travel north to join us.

With Debbie’s efficient organisation, we synchronised dates to congregate for a light lunch.

 

Once we had been introduced to Kwai from Yorkshire, there was plenty of reminiscing amongst the mothers.

Serena brought her super camera (I struggled with my modern phone cam), to record the event.

In Debbie’s childhood sunny garden, over delightful salad and puds, I overheard various versions of how strange each mother had found their adopted daughter, struggling on occasions to understand how different and aloof we seemed until settled into their families; my being “quiet and still” was a worry, from perusing (Serena’s mother) Barbara’s essay on the psychology of attachment.

The day went so well, and I am glad my mother Anne, had this chance to meet up and exchange memories with Vanessa (George), Barbara and Joan.

 

All pictures courtesy of Serena.

Mother’s and adoptees meet

On the 14th August a few mother’s and daughter’s met at my mothers house for the first time.  An account will follow by the mothers in due course.  Overall the day was lovely and everybody was so relaxed.  All the Mother’s enjoyed a glass of wine and it was interesting that not one of the adoptee daughters drank!

Here is a group picture of us in the Garden.  The daughter’s are all standing behind the mothers.

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Picture taken by Serena

Naomi from the UK meets up with Kim in San Francisco July 2013

Naomi was heading out to San Frabcisco in July and I managed  to put her in touch with Kim R (and Mei Yan) who wrote the Fanling Babies Home Website….

‘My friend and I got the train south from San Francisco and met up with Kim in Silicon Valley. We’re pictured on the Google campus. We had lunch together and Kim showed us round Stanford University. She was delightful company and a generous host.
For my part you’re welcome to post the photo on the HK adoptees website. It was wonderful to travel half way around the world and meet up with someone I’d never met before but who’d had similar early life experiences to me. Mind you, apart from my sister who’s also an HK adoptee I’d also met Ginny Peng (nee Desmond from New Zealand) twenty-five years ago when she was staying with a neighbour near my Mum’s home in Wimbledon. So, meeting HK adoptees from the New World was not new to me but it was rewarding.’