Skype Social Conference Call

Once a month we are having a Skype conference call whereby we invite any Chinese Adult Adoptee to join us, please contact Debbie UK or Kim R if you wish to join us , giving your name and Skype address.

Saturday 7th December was a blast or as the Americans would say Awesome! We had the following countries all participating, Brisbane, Hong Kong, Hawaii, UK, in America New York, Vancoover, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Eugene, Portland, California, and Baja.  All the different time zones and weather made the call just an amazing way of meeting new adoptees like ourselves!

The usual formalities are that everybody introduces themselves and the person wearing the CROWN (me) does her best to ensure that each person gets a chance to say something as there are so many questions or experiences that we want to share……

Come and join us…  It will be the First Saturday in each month 8 pm UK time.  However, our January date has been set  back to the 2nd Saturday as people are still on holidays.  I will post details nearer the time individually if you have contacted me or else on this website.

In the meantime I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

An abandoned baby on the streets of Shanghai

I read an article in the Financial Times off the internet and I wanted to share this story.  I was really quite moved as it is about a lady who finds a baby girl abandoned in an alleyway, she herself had already adopted two Chinese girls and it tells of her emotions….

Are Chinese orphans better off than they used to be?

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/ft/2011/08/lost_and_found.html

 

Sun and Moon for the Birmingham Reunion, September 2013

Written by our lovely Janet, Thank you.

Friday’s dawn cast a rich golden glow as I bade hubby a romantic farewell (“don’t forget to put the bins out”) and, in some trepidation, set off for a reunion on my own for the first time. But I knew I’d be among good friends, and that’s indeed how it turned out – wonderful company and an enjoyable mix of things to do together. For instance, several of us shared dinner that evening and on Saturday I joined the group exploring the new Library.

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Birmingham’s new public Library, the largest in Britain

This is an interesting modern building designed as a golden treasure box. Was the architect let loose with Spirograph? Inside we walked or went by escalator/travelator/lift through imaginative non-angular spaces cleverly flooded with natural light. From the top floor (9th) we admired the city panorama, and then strolled round the roof eco-garden.

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Viewing gallery

The combined Museum, Art Gallery and Edwardian Tea Room (for me, a winning combination!) is by contrast a grand historic building but no less impressive.

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Lunch in the Edwardian Tea Room

The afternoon’s reunion was structured (with a ‘facilitator’ – thanks, Sanjeeta) yet it felt relaxed and informal. The atmosphere was just right for the intimate telling of adoption stories as we shared and also supported each other. There were some very moving stories indeed. Among many subjects we discussed our approximate birthdays, racism then and now, trying to obtain documents, and the intermittent post-adoption support or total lack of it. Debbie reported on the recent meeting of four mothers along with their daughters, and we heard (read out from a written piece) the viewpoint of mothers who’d adopted. We also heard perspectives directly from a sister of an adoptee and another’s husband who’d come to the reunion.

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The reunion

Chinatown was bustling as it was the Autumn Festival. Against the odds Kate had managed to book the Ming Moon restaurant, in the end avoiding a particular pub chain. Ancient Chinese proverb, it say: “Better to eat with chopsticks than with wetherspoon.” In fact, it was fork for pork (etc) as chopsticks weren’t provided. It was westernised but still lavishly oriental, whose help yourself buffet kept calling to me. Over 50 Asian dishes, oodles of noodles, sushi and dim sum – how could I resist. This was a really fun time when I could catch up with some friends I hadn’t been able to chat to earlier. Some of us went for drinks afterwards, and visited a Chinese food supermarket the next day before we finally had to part company.

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Lunch on Sunday

As I neared home, still remembering the reunion, I watched the bright orange moon as it rose (still mostly full) and thought of the egg yolk = moon in the Autumn Festival mooncakes. A beautiful way to end a brilliant weekend.

Thanks so much to Kate who organised the weekend and to Debbie who contributed too. Thanks to Ian for three of the above photos.

Reflections from Mother’s and Daughter’s

Serena’s mother Brenda has very kindly written the following:-    

6a Serena Brenda‘I sat on the train travelling to Manchester and wondered what the forthcoming meeting on the following day would bring.   There had been over forty years of non-communication and a wall of silence was to be broken.     Four mothers with their adopted four daughters were to meet for a few hours during Wednesday, 14th August, 2013. It had been over forty five years ago that we all had laid plans to adopt a little child from a Hong Kong Children’s Home.   During those years I had had no contact with any other family who had welcomed into their home a little Chinese toddler, even though 106 such children had been brought over by the BOAC planes to England.  Why the non-communication?  Simply in those days support groups were rare and not even considered.   I wondered whether there would be awkward silences, and whether we would struggle to enter into a free dialogue with one another.   I wondered what the outcome would be for us all – beneficial or would it be just a brief insignificant interlude in our lives.   Vanessa and George were hosting the meeting and I found myself immediately ‘at home’ in their house in Hale Barns,Cheshire.   Wednesday morning found us waiting for the others to arrive, and when they came it was like a meeting of ‘friends’.   We all had something in common – we had all taken the same step into the same unknown journey.  We chatted, exchanged our different experiences, we drank tea/coffee and wine, we had a pleasant lunch in the garden and all the time the conversation flowed.   There were no tensions for we had so much to tell one another and so much to learn from one another. Was the meeting beneficial?  Yes and yes again.   I gathered a greater understanding of the various challenges we all faced during the first few years of helping a little daughters to adjust to family life in Britain, but the loveliest moment during that day was to see my daughter Serena freely conversing with her new Chinese friends.     Do I have any regrets of the meeting?  Yes.  I regret that this meeting was forty-five years overdue.  

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Joanna’s mother Reverend Anne – August 2013 visit

​One beautiful, sunny day in August, my daughter, Joanna, and I drove to Cheshire to meet three other mothers and their daughters who were adopted in the early 1960s.

​We had a good time swapping our early experiences, and discovered that although these were similar, they were also very different!  For example, one mother (a teacher) had researched all the data on maternal deprivation, abandonment and adoption when she first had her daughter, whereas I didn’t discover this information until I trained as a teacher myself in the 1980s!   We found our daughters had various phobias which probably were rooted in their early babyhood experiences.  For example one couldn’t stand furry things, another birds and another flies.

​I was impressed by the way the girls, sitting together on the sofa, seemed bonded together as if they were sisters. They didn’t look alike, but they appeared to feel alike.

​We enjoyed great hospitality, lovely food and friendship, a beautiful garden to sit in – thank you very much to our hosts.

​Although we Mums maybe getting on in years, I can recommend this type of get together, I found it very rewarding. I hope the girls did too.

 

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Debbie’s mother Vanessa has written the following too:

5a Debbie VanessaI have thought so many times about how useful and interesting it would be to talk to other mother’s who had adopted a baby from Hong Kong, especially at the very beginning when there were so many problems. So, I was delighted when Deborah told me that the mother of one of the adoptees had said “what about us, you would not be here if it hadn’t been for us?” I had nearly mentioned it several times to Deborah but she was so involved and enthusiastic about the whole adoptee set up that I thought maybe I should stay in the background as I felt it was “her thing” It soon became apparent that many mothers had the same idea, so we set a date and decided to have a buffet lunch at our house.

There were four mother’s with their respective daughter’s. I think we could easily have expanded it but eight people was a manageable number in a private house. Serena, an adoptee, and her mother travelled up from Kent the day before and stayed with us which was a great help in preparing for the day.

The day dawned fine and sunny, the other mothers and daughters duly arrived and we were able to take our lunch out to the garden (which I always think makes it nice and informal) and Serena took photos of us all. It was soon apparent that we had all had problems of one sort or another, mostly quite different.

In our case the problems all stemmed from insecurity which is hardly surprising as Deborah had spent just over two years in the Fanling baby home. She was then given to a stranger to bring over from Hong Kong on the long flight to Heathrow airport where we met her. She was almost flung into my arms with the words, “she has yelled all the way over, been sick and her dirty clothes are in this bag, oh, and she needs her nappy changing” Wow! There was another mother meeting a baby, we took them into the Ladies to change them and then departed for Manchester at a time of no motorways and the journey took about five hours!

I had not expected to find looking after Deborah easy but it took a year of considerable difficulty and a second year when life became a little easier. I would say that realistically her adjustment was five years in total. There were times when I despaired that Deborah would ever fully adjust and it was hard to know if I was handling the problems correctly.

I was only visited by the National Childrens’ home once and had no other professional help or advice. Fortunately I had wonderful neighbours who helped with good old fashioned common sense which is all I had to go on. How marvellous I thought at the time it would be to talk to other mothers in the same situation but with no internet it would have been impossible. All four of us mothers agreed wholeheartedly with that thought. We all felt the day had been a great success and agreed that we should put something on paper from our perspective.

I know that it has been wonderful for the adoptees to get to know one another and find people in exactly the same situation as themselves. So this is my attempt! I think that having the mother’s perspective, in a way, completes the circle.

 

Picture of the 4 of us enjoying dinner at a local pub at the end of a lovely day.

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Serena comments too;

When I bought my mum to the BAAF BCAS Gathering which was in January 2011 at The Nuffield Centre, London I was surprised my mum was the only one to show up. Ever since then we have both been curious as to how other mums felt and was secretly hoping there would be more mums meeting up another time.

So when the opportunity for a mums & daughters get together date was arranged we were both very excited.

The day was lovely and relaxing with 4 mums Ann, Brenda, Joan and Vanessa and 4 daughters. Great to catch up with familiar faces, Joanna and Debbie and to meet Kwai for the 1st time.

Watching and listening to the mums chatting about us was really interesting and also hearing their side of the story was such an eye opener as I had only heard my mums views about adopting me.

Thanks to Vanessa for hosting the day in their home we were pleased it was a lovely day and we could eat out in the garden.

I enjoyed the day and was mainly pleased for my mum that she had finally met another mum who has had a similar experience to her when she adopted me.

Joanna Comments too:-

13b Joanna AnnWhen I told my mother that Janet had organised a reunion in London for the December 1962 group of nine adoptees, she wondered why the mothers weren’t invited. This prompted me to suggest to Debbie that as her parents lived in the same area, then perhaps meeting them, might satisfy her.

Serena’s mother was keen also, and willing to travel north to join us.

With Debbie’s efficient organisation, we synchronised dates to congregate for a light lunch.

 

Once we had been introduced to Kwai from Yorkshire, there was plenty of reminiscing amongst the mothers.

Serena brought her super camera (I struggled with my modern phone cam), to record the event.

In Debbie’s childhood sunny garden, over delightful salad and puds, I overheard various versions of how strange each mother had found their adopted daughter, struggling on occasions to understand how different and aloof we seemed until settled into their families; my being “quiet and still” was a worry, from perusing (Serena’s mother) Barbara’s essay on the psychology of attachment.

The day went so well, and I am glad my mother Anne, had this chance to meet up and exchange memories with Vanessa (George), Barbara and Joan.

 

All pictures courtesy of Serena.

Mother’s and adoptees meet

On the 14th August a few mother’s and daughter’s met at my mothers house for the first time.  An account will follow by the mothers in due course.  Overall the day was lovely and everybody was so relaxed.  All the Mother’s enjoyed a glass of wine and it was interesting that not one of the adoptee daughters drank!

Here is a group picture of us in the Garden.  The daughter’s are all standing behind the mothers.

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Picture taken by Serena

Naomi from the UK meets up with Kim in San Francisco July 2013

Naomi was heading out to San Frabcisco in July and I managed  to put her in touch with Kim R (and Mei Yan) who wrote the Fanling Babies Home Website….

‘My friend and I got the train south from San Francisco and met up with Kim in Silicon Valley. We’re pictured on the Google campus. We had lunch together and Kim showed us round Stanford University. She was delightful company and a generous host.
For my part you’re welcome to post the photo on the HK adoptees website. It was wonderful to travel half way around the world and meet up with someone I’d never met before but who’d had similar early life experiences to me. Mind you, apart from my sister who’s also an HK adoptee I’d also met Ginny Peng (nee Desmond from New Zealand) twenty-five years ago when she was staying with a neighbour near my Mum’s home in Wimbledon. So, meeting HK adoptees from the New World was not new to me but it was rewarding.’

Debbie & Janet’s July 2013 mini break in York

We arranged to go to York for our Birthday’s, to celebrate our ‘on or about birthdays that we were given by the Authorities when we were found and admitted in to Fanling Babies home.

Firstly we met up with Fiona in Corbridge as was visiting her parents before embarking on a new journey in her life to China. A Librarian!  I am sure you will all wish her well.

 

 

 

We stayed at my sister’s apartment in the heart of York and it’s just fabulous to get parked up and walk everywhere, maybe a possible venue for a future reunion??  York has so much to offer!

We met up with Pete and his partner Lynn (our only brother that we know of to date) on the first night and dined at Jamie’s Italian Restaurant a must if you are into that kind of cusine!

 

 

 

 

The following day we met up with a new adoptee Kwai she was at the first BAAF BCAS Presentation several years ago and I am sure some of you will remember her.  What a lovely day it was the weather was superb and the chatter was non stop ans we had a very nice lunch in the Newgate Coffee Bar.

 

 

In the evening I had arranged to meet up with my first adoptee that I met back in 2009, I affectionately refer to her as my ‘Yorkie Kiwi’ as she was originally adopted out to New Zealand.  My sister made a salad tea and Linda made an absolutely gorgeous mouth watering Lemon Tart.  Thank you Linda for that, and your lovely company.  We finished the remains just before we left the following day in the afternoon!

 

Our trip was not complete as Janet had seen there was a YO! Sushi or as Janet said shouldn’t it be called ‘York! Sushi?’  So off we trotted around waiting for the restaurant to open at 11am to have an early lunch, it was certainly worth the experience.  We spent a good 10 minutes watching all the lovely dishes go by on the conveyer and then another 5 minutes looking at the wonderful menu.  Janet was so happy, happy!

 

I would like to say thank you to my sister Louise, who has over the last few years met some of my new adoptee friends.  I know she knows this journey means so much to me and it has also given her the opportunity to get to know me.

So I wonder what next?  Now that would be telling keep reading the website…..  If any of you too have been meeting up with fellow adoptees I would love to hear from you with a small account and pictures!

 

Women’s Weekly Articles on Jean Griffiths, New Zealand

I met Jean out in Hong Kong in 2010 when the New Zealand reunion and the first Chinese Adult Adoptee Worldwide Reunion took place and I found her to be real a inspiration.  Jean has very kindly allowed me to put the following links of two articles that were written about her life, struggles, and her faith.  For Jean her memories are quite vivid and she describes it being a very traumatic time in her life and returning to her homeland, Hong Kong had meant to her!

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